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213 Protestants on this thread should be humbling themselves looking to the Catholic Church for ideas for solutions.


JUDITH GINN BEAUFORD: 10 years at my last Baptist church. .  One youth worker arrested for soliciting boys in the youth group for sex. An assistant pastor fired for embezzling money. Another assistant pastor fired for embezzling money, having an affair, and being an active drug abuser and alcoholic, (now on the Texas sex-offender list), another assistant pastor fired for having an affair and refusing to repent so he just started his own church. In 8 years as a Catholic I've seen no problems, but I have had regular training (every three years) on how to spot problems and report them. 

JUDITH GINN BEAUFORD: Instead of pointing fingers and judging - the Protestants on this thread should be humbling themselves, looking to the Catholic Church for ideas for how to stop the problem. Because of the problems in the Catholic Church the Catholics have had to come up with solutions. Lots of Protestants (not all) are still hiding, pretending things are okay in their churches and they're not. So instead of using pedophilia as yet another anti-Catholic position, Protestants should be asking Catholics for help on how to solve the problem.   

KEVIN LIEW: Protestants don't often make media headlines because Protestantism isn't a threat to the consciences of sinful humans. The next time you hear Protestants bring up the sins of individual Catholics, you respond in kind, by narrating the sins of King Henry VIII, Elizabeth I, Oliver Cromwell, Martin Luther, pastor Jim Jones (of the People's Temple), etc. etc. etc. Remind the world of institutional bigotry against Catholicism and the history of anti-Catholicism in Protestant-dominated countries.   

JUDITH GINN BEAUFORD: We should all be mourning our individual sins instead of pointing fingers at each other.   

JUDITH GINN BEAUFORD: Likewise we should all be celebrating the good on both sides.   

JUDITH GINN BEAUFORD: I heard all about the Catholic pedophilia scandal, and I became Catholic anyway. There will always be sinners..

GLORIE ROSE:  I was just talking about this last night with my daughter. While I was growing up in Protestant churches, the church I was attending in Sacramento with my parents had a Sunday school teacher, on staff, who was molesting girls. Then my church in Nevada years later had our first youth pastor doing things with his infant children that I cannot even write out. A well-known judge in our area got him off the hook for it because the pastor of the church both the judge and molester were attending when he got caught was good friends with the judge. The pastor was so against divorce that he told the judge to get him off and encourage the wife to reconcile. He succeeded. The wife left and remarried. Unfortunately because of this judge and protestant pastor, this child molester was set free and is remarried with more small children. I have some other stories of molestation within Protestant churches I attended but am not at liberty to share. In every congregation I attended, there were molesters. So, let us be sure to not point the finger. There are always three pointing right back at ourselves when we do that. Child molesters put themselves in positions in churches because Christians in general can be more trusting of their staff. Molesters know this, manipulate and place themselves in with children purposefully. It happens everywhere. Not just churches and not just Catholic churches.

LEONARD ALT: Glorie, your very candid and fair commentary is much appreciated.  Yes, there is a problem across the board in all churches and in fact the problem is hundred greater in secular schools then in the Christian clergy.   All parents, as you have done, should speak to their children, about this issue, in case it happens to them.  https://www.facebook.com/notes/leonard-alt/66-sexual-abuse-of-students-in-schools-is-likely-more-than-100-times-greater/296919067024710

DAVID BUCHANAN: I was Pentecostal as well Maryann and convergence in 2011. We had a church we were in fellowship with had one of its elders molest 3 young girls the pastor of the church called a meeting and locked the members of the congregation in the sanctuary and scolded them telling them the children where liars and that he would not tolerate anyone saying anything about the pedophile.  The reason it was his son in law and he was the biggest tithe giver the sad part is to my knowledge all 3 of the girls now are atheists.

LEONARD ALT: I had a lady tell me the reason that Catholic priests are pedophiles is because they are not allowed to marry. I told her that if I followed her thinking to it's logical conclusion then I would have to say that the single people in her Evangelical church, because they are not married, are pedophiles. I told her further that there was no way that she could convince me that the single people in her church were pedophile perverts just because they are single. It must have struck a nerve with someone because my comment was promptly removed.

DAVID BUCHANAN: I was Pentecostal as well Maryann and convergence in 2011. We had a church we were in fellowship with had one of its elders molest 3 young girls the pastor of the church called a meeting and locked the members of the congregation in the sanctuary and scolded them telling them the children where liars and that he would not tolerate anyone saying anything about the pedophile. The reason it was his son in law and he was the biggest tithe giver the sad part is to my knowledge all 3 of the girls now are atheists.  https://www.facebook.com/notes/leonard-alt/213-protestants-on-this-thread-should-be-humbling-themselves-looking-to-the-cath/812609615455650